Holiski resorts angry with the CdA

The relationship between local communities and the ski areas run by the mighty Compagnie des Alpes has not been great over the last few years with resorts accusing the CdA of favouring well heeled guests and is tight fisted with investments and lift pass receipts. The CdA has countered that it invests heavily in the ski areas it runs and is operating in a very competitive global market. Resorts were further angered by the introduction of the Carte Skier Fréquent pass last season. Mayors claimed the lift pass would homogenize ski resorts.

This winter the CdA will extend the Carte Skier Fréquent lift pass trialled last winter. It is re-branded Holiski. Skiers will be able to roam between any of 10 ski resorts after paying a registration fee of 32 € (a 7% increase on last season!). Skiers will have their credit cards debited at the end of the month for any days skied.

Yesterday in a meeting in Moutiers the representatives of sixteen six areas in the Tarentaise aired their complaints. Although not against the idea of universal lift pass they say that it will allow the CdA to avoid payments to the local communities. The mayors said they were sovereign in their areas and it was up to the CdA to reach agreements with each community regarding the logistics of the Holoski pass. They accuse the CdA of being uncommunicative and say the first they knew about the new lift pass was from the Internet.

The CdA counters that the Holoski pass will leverage the network effect. They want to grow skier/days by 10% over the next 4 years. They claim that other areas are already ahead of the game with such passes, such as the N’Py scheme in the Pyrenees. They say they have to think globally whereas mayors think locally. The group assured communities that they would get every penny owed.

Further Information

http://pistehors.com/news/ski/comments/0844-mixed-opinion-on-cda-super-lift-pass/
http://pistehors.com/news/ski/comments/0761-tarentaise-ski-monopoly-imposes-roaming-charges/
http://www.holiski.com/

Posted by davidof on Friday, 05 September, 2008 at 06:40 AM

Here is a list of participating resorts

Savoie: l’Espace Killy (Val d’Isère and Tignes), Paradiski (Les Arcs, La Plagne, Peisey-Vallandry), Méribel-Les Allues and Les Menuires-Saint-Martin de Belleville (we are not sure how this works with the other Trois Valleys resorts).

Haute-Savoie : le Grand Massif (Flaine, Les Carroz, Morillon, Samoëns, Sixt-Fer-à-Cheval).

Hautes-Alpes : Serre-Chevalier.

The following reductions are offered on the one day ticket prices:

* 15% outside the February winter holiday period
* 10 % during the February holidays
* between 25-30% on Saturdays (change over day for week holiday makers)

This is actually a lot less generous than the CSF pass (which, according to the website) offered a 30% blanket reduction.

The CdA claim you are better off with the Holiski pass after just 8 days skiing. Which is true if you always intend to ski a single day in each resort say once a week during the season. However some skiers might do better to look at the CdA’s XXL if they are staying in the Tarentaise for one or two weeks.

Posted by davidof on  Tuesday, 09 September, 2008  at 05:10 PM

You said “Méribel-Les Allues and Les Menuires-Saint-Martin de Belleville (we are not sure how this works with the other Trois Valleys resorts).”

I asked Holiski that question and got back via email “The Holiski pass enables you to ski in Les Menuires but not in Courchevel. If you want to ski in Courchevel you wont be able to use your Holiski pass and you will have to buy a pass for Courchevel”

So pretty pointless for a daytripper to 3v unless you want to ski just one sector.

Posted by  on  Friday, 31 October, 2008  at 12:48 AM
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